Comments on: White Shirt, ✓, Tie, ✓, Dockers ✘ http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/ A satirical look at TRUTH through the mote-free eyes of Elder Stephen Erastus Knudsen III Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:55:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1.3 By: jessawhy http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-835 jessawhy Thu, 28 Jun 2007 02:38:12 +0000 http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-835 That is an interesting article. I'm a little torn. I have an issue with the way Mormons are so laid back at wedding receptions, bringing half a dozen snotty-nosed kids and maybe wearing a denim jumper and keds. I think we should up the attire for weddings and other formal occasions. For church, not so much. As far as church dress code goes, the only improvement I would like to see made is that women are no longer pressured or ordered to wear dresses. This comes from a feminist, of course, but what exactly does a skirt mean? It seems like the skirt itself it more important than the style or fabric. The ratty denim knee-length skirt that would be crazy if it were shorts is seen as more appropriate than a woman in a nice pantsuit? Although I live in AZ, I've been in UT in the winter where a nice pair of wool socks and trousers would have been much better than a thin layer of rayon that hits mid-calf. That's my two cents. That is an interesting article. I’m a little torn. I have an issue with the way Mormons are so laid back at wedding receptions, bringing half a dozen snotty-nosed kids and maybe wearing a denim jumper and keds. I think we should up the attire for weddings and other formal occasions. For church, not so much. As far as church dress code goes, the only improvement I would like to see made is that women are no longer pressured or ordered to wear dresses. This comes from a feminist, of course, but what exactly does a skirt mean? It seems like the skirt itself it more important than the style or fabric. The ratty denim knee-length skirt that would be crazy if it were shorts is seen as more appropriate than a woman in a nice pantsuit?
Although I live in AZ, I’ve been in UT in the winter where a nice pair of wool socks and trousers would have been much better than a thin layer of rayon that hits mid-calf.
That’s my two cents.

]]> By: Rüpel http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-844 Rüpel Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:13:10 +0000 http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-844 <blockquote>This comes from a feminist, of course, but what exactly does a skirt mean? It seems like the skirt itself it more important than the style or fabric. The ratty denim knee-length skirt that would be crazy if it were shorts is seen as more appropriate than a woman in a nice pantsuit?</blockquote> I remember a number of women on my mission in Germany that would come to church from miles away in very cold weather. A few of them decided that nice pants were just fine, and I frankly agreed with them. Just coming to church was more important. Funny enough, most of the people who complained were the missionaries (The Elders anyways. The Sisters actually expressed jealousy).

This comes from a feminist, of course, but what exactly does a skirt mean? It seems like the skirt itself it more important than the style or fabric. The ratty denim knee-length skirt that would be crazy if it were shorts is seen as more appropriate than a woman in a nice pantsuit?

I remember a number of women on my mission in Germany that would come to church from miles away in very cold weather. A few of them decided that nice pants were just fine, and I frankly agreed with them. Just coming to church was more important.
Funny enough, most of the people who complained were the missionaries (The Elders anyways. The Sisters actually expressed jealousy).

]]> By: Caine http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-856 Caine Wed, 04 Jul 2007 22:22:41 +0000 http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-856 From time to time I grow a full beard and often will let it get fairly long (think Grizzly Adams). Recently I also let me hair grow for about 8 months, concurrent with my beard. It wasn't really that long, but it was definately reaching mullet status. Anyway, I just love to see all the looks that people give me and how they react. The hypocrasy is beautiful to see. I really like my beard and so does my wife, but I get these looks of disdain and dissapointment from many of the church members. If I lived before Pres. McKay, I could have been the Pres. of the Church, but now for many members I should not even be allowed to have my current calling- 1st Counselor in the YM Pres. One of the oldtimers in our ward (whom I completely respect and love) who isn't affraid to give out his opinion, gave me his while my beard was just starting to bloom. He noticed it in the halway and commented on it. I told him my wife liked it and he remarked that I should "think about the boys that I'm leading" instead of my wife. Last time I checked I'm sealed to my wife and not the boys. Sure I have a responsibilty to these boys, but I don't I have a greater responsibility to my wife. Non-white shirts are also a sore point for me. I understand and agree that white shirts are symbolic and add to the reflection on the atonement, especially for young men preparing/passing/blessing the sacrament. White shirts are great as missionary attire and add a sense of uniformity. But for me, they just get boring after a while. I know that may sound silly, but I think that a non-white shirt in many ways looks much nicer and better than a white shirt does. That's my opinion, and there are many other opposing opinions, which are very valid. I just get tired of the idea that if a person either a) grows facial hair or b) wears a non-white shirt, or c) both a and b, they are on the road to apostasy, if not already there. From time to time I grow a full beard and often will let it get fairly long (think Grizzly Adams). Recently I also let me hair grow for about 8 months, concurrent with my beard. It wasn’t really that long, but it was definately reaching mullet status. Anyway, I just love to see all the looks that people give me and how they react. The hypocrasy is beautiful to see. I really like my beard and so does my wife, but I get these looks of disdain and dissapointment from many of the church members. If I lived before Pres. McKay, I could have been the Pres. of the Church, but now for many members I should not even be allowed to have my current calling- 1st Counselor in the YM Pres. One of the oldtimers in our ward (whom I completely respect and love) who isn’t affraid to give out his opinion, gave me his while my beard was just starting to bloom. He noticed it in the halway and commented on it. I told him my wife liked it and he remarked that I should “think about the boys that I’m leading” instead of my wife. Last time I checked I’m sealed to my wife and not the boys. Sure I have a responsibilty to these boys, but I don’t I have a greater responsibility to my wife. Non-white shirts are also a sore point for me. I understand and agree that white shirts are symbolic and add to the reflection on the atonement, especially for young men preparing/passing/blessing the sacrament. White shirts are great as missionary attire and add a sense of uniformity. But for me, they just get boring after a while. I know that may sound silly, but I think that a non-white shirt in many ways looks much nicer and better than a white shirt does. That’s my opinion, and there are many other opposing opinions, which are very valid. I just get tired of the idea that if a person either a) grows facial hair or b) wears a non-white shirt, or c) both a and b, they are on the road to apostasy, if not already there.

]]> By: Glenn http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-859 Glenn Thu, 05 Jul 2007 04:46:44 +0000 http://www.mormonfolklore.org/blog/2007/06/27/white-shirt-%e2%9c%93-tie-%e2%9c%93-dockers-%e2%9c%98/#comment-859 "From time to time" huh. C'mon Bigfoot, you're not fooling anyone here! “From time to time” huh. C’mon Bigfoot, you’re not fooling anyone here!

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